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why is john mccain so angry? 40 years after the vietnam p.o.w.s came home, the most famous of them is angrier than ever. why is america, why are we fighting the vietnam war all over again in the united states senate? the ticked off vitriol against chuck hagel, what is it about? is it for show? is it about something hagel said in the cloakroom? is it the unfairness of vietnam itself, that some went and some didn't? is it about johnson's inability to win that war or end it? what burns so deeply in john mccain these days? it seems to excite those who knew nothing about vietnam but want to replay it. we dig into the deep well of resentment burning in john mccain's patriotic heart. a resentment not against the north vietnamese who imprisoned and tortured him all those years, not against george w. bush and his political henchmen who tried to stain mccain's reputation back in 2000, but against a guy who fought against fear and rallied against wounds just like he did in the same army of america's long nightmare in vietna
why is john mccain so angry? 40 years after the vietnam p.o.w.s came home, the most famous of them is angrier than ever. why is america, why are we fighting the vietnam war all over again in the united states senate? the ticked off vitriol against chuck hagel, what is it about? is it for show? is it about something hagel said in the cloakroom? is it the unfairness of vietnam itself, that some went and some didn't? is it about johnson's inability to win that war or end it? what burns so deeply...
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the kennedy-john mccain comprehensive bill included both security and a path to citizenship. it was written that none of the provisions could be enacted until five areas were achieved. here is what is really interesting, although the bill died we actually made a lot of progress on those provisions anyway. the border security provision largely got it done, even as the path to citizenship got largely left behind. northbound one, operation control the border between u.s. and mexico, that was never really defined. one definition said the whole border had to be under government surveillance. that is true, it is 100% monitored. another definition says we need to be able to quickly respond to any activity, any activity on the border. we're up 57%, up from 1 first in 2007. but experts believe it is just unbelievably impossible. provision number two, staff enhancements for border patrol to 20,000 full-time agents, check, there are currently 24,000. number three, strong barriers which include at least 7,000 physical barriers, plus 105 radar and camera towers and at least four unmanned
the kennedy-john mccain comprehensive bill included both security and a path to citizenship. it was written that none of the provisions could be enacted until five areas were achieved. here is what is really interesting, although the bill died we actually made a lot of progress on those provisions anyway. the border security provision largely got it done, even as the path to citizenship got largely left behind. northbound one, operation control the border between u.s. and mexico, that was never...
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police people who were tough on him, like john mccain and lindsey graham were clearly not in his camp to begin with. but you have to see whether somebody takes that next step and puts a hold on the nomination. you know, it is one thing to oppose him. it is another thing to put a hold on the nomination and ask for a filibuster, because then you're declaring war on the president. >> then you need 60, in order to confirm him, there are 55 democrats, so you need five republicans. >> and there were filibuster threats, but i don't think there is a full-scale filibuster to block a cabinet nominee. no question, as gloria said, the republicans, somebody who is in the tribe and moves out is often treated more harshly than somebody who hadn't been there. taking it to the next step -- >> even if he is confirmed, how does that impact as a sitting defense secretary? >> well, this is usually one of the less partisan positions. we saw it from bill clinton to barack obama, who have often reached out to put somebody in from the other party. which of course is what barack obama is doing. as i said, peop
police people who were tough on him, like john mccain and lindsey graham were clearly not in his camp to begin with. but you have to see whether somebody takes that next step and puts a hold on the nomination. you know, it is one thing to oppose him. it is another thing to put a hold on the nomination and ask for a filibuster, because then you're declaring war on the president. >> then you need 60, in order to confirm him, there are 55 democrats, so you need five republicans. >> and...
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. >> in our final topic tonight, have any of you figured out just how close john mccain and chuck hagel actually are? i mean, are they really good buddies, eugene robinson? >> it's a bromance, a bromance for the ages. >> okay, is that what that is? i tell you what? who needs enemies with friends like that? i think, michael tomasky, i think that chuck hagel was just taken by it all. >> yeah, well, he was something. you know, i hope he is better prepared for the issues he is going to face as secretary of defense than he was for those questions. >> i think stunned would be the right word. eugene robinson, michelle goldberg, michael tomasky, thanks for being with us tonight. thanks for joining us on "the ed show." >>> coming up, be sure to enjoy your beer this super bowl sunday, because next year it could cost a little bit more. actually, a whole lot more. but not if president obama and the justice department have anything to do with it. stay tuned. we're right back. >>> hillary clinton officially stepped down today as secretary of state. but many of you on our facebook and twitter believe
. >> in our final topic tonight, have any of you figured out just how close john mccain and chuck hagel actually are? i mean, are they really good buddies, eugene robinson? >> it's a bromance, a bromance for the ages. >> okay, is that what that is? i tell you what? who needs enemies with friends like that? i think, michael tomasky, i think that chuck hagel was just taken by it all. >> yeah, well, he was something. you know, i hope he is better prepared for the issues he...
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a lot of fireworks between hagel and john mccain. take a look. >> we are correct or incorrect. yes or no? >> my reference to the refer -- >> the question is were you right or wrong. that's a pretty straight forward question. i would like to answer and then you are free to elaborate. >> i am not going to give you a yes or no answer. >> joe, first of all, let me ask you this. the white house didn't jump to his defense after that stuff. why not? >> who didn't? >> the white house. the white house didn't jump to his defense. >> the white house has a sense that he has a good chance to be confirmed and everybody know that is the hearings will be contentious. no doubt there will be a lot of consengz and a lot of bad blood between this senator and colleagues and many who question his stance with regard to iran and how strong he would be and also with regard to israel. expect contention. that doesn't mean he won't be confirmed. i don't think the white house will jump to his defense. >> again, white house didn't jump to his defense. one republican opponent took to politico to point out hi
a lot of fireworks between hagel and john mccain. take a look. >> we are correct or incorrect. yes or no? >> my reference to the refer -- >> the question is were you right or wrong. that's a pretty straight forward question. i would like to answer and then you are free to elaborate. >> i am not going to give you a yes or no answer. >> joe, first of all, let me ask you this. the white house didn't jump to his defense after that stuff. why not? >> who didn't?...